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"summary": "Brian Tolkin, Head of Product and Design at Opendoor, discusses how combining product and operations creates business leverage. Starting at Uber as employee 100 in operations before moving to product, he led uberPOOL's global expansion and established the product operations function. At Opendoor, he applies these lessons to the real estate business. Key topics include understanding how businesses actually work through ops experience, running effective product reviews, implementing jobs to be done framework, experimentation challenges with low transaction volumes, and maintaining calm under pressure. He shares insights on finding the kernel of truth in a sea of signals, the Zillow competitive dynamic, and how to evolve from manual operations to scaled technology solutions.",
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"summary": "Brian shares how his ops background at Uber gave him deep understanding of how the business actually works day-to-day, which became a foundation for building scalable products. He contrasts the traditional product-ops divide where product looks down on ops, with a metaphor of a twin turbine jet plane that works most efficiently when both engines work together.",
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"summary": "Brian explains how he created the product operations function at Uber to bridge the gap between centralized product teams in San Francisco and globally distributed operations teams. This function served as a bidirectional feedback loop to share insights from the field back to product and help implement features globally.",
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"summary": "Brian shares a story of launching uberPOOL in Chengdu, China, where the matching algorithm failed the night before launch. The team worked through the night to fix infrastructure issues and launched at 6 AM, followed by celebrating with street food pancakes after being sleep-deprived.",
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"summary": "When COVID-19 hit, Opendoor had to pivot from in-home viewings to a virtualized process. The team turned off the core business temporarily and used those months to fully virtualize the home buying and selling experience, turning a stressful moment into a positive outcome.",
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"summary": "Brian discusses how to run product reviews effectively in ops-driven companies. Key principles include: intentionality about goals (accountability and making products better), creating a safe environment not a firing squad, keeping groups small (under 10), using templates to set expectations, and distributing artifacts widely for documentation and onboarding.",
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"summary": "Brian explains how Opendoor uses jobs to be done framework adapted for their context. Rather than strict adherence to templates, they focus on cultural internalization of the concept. The team asks 'what is the actual job?' to get deeper understanding of customer needs beyond surface-level requests.",
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"summary": "Opendoor faces unique challenges running A/B tests with low transaction volumes (homes bought/sold once every 7 years on average). Brian recommends power analysis, accepting longer runtimes, using alternative statistical techniques like diff-in-diff, and trusting intuition when data isn't available.",
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"summary": "Brian discusses balancing data-driven decisions with intuition when sample sizes are small. He advocates for humility, testing assumptions when possible, and when not possible, combining intuition with customer conversations and conviction levels to make informed decisions.",
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"summary": "Zillow attempted to compete directly with Opendoor but struggled with the complexity of the business. They now partner instead. Brian reflects that Zillow underestimated the need for vertical integration across pricing, product, operations, risk management, and capital markets—all required to execute the iBuying model.",
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"title": "Competition Awareness vs Competition Focus",
"summary": "Brian shares philosophy of being competition-aware but not competition-focused. With a large enough market (largest asset class in US), the focus should be on serving core customers well rather than obsessing over competitors. Similar to Uber's approach with Lyft.",
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"summary": "Brian shares his approach to staying calm under pressure and not reflecting stress onto teams. Key mantras include 'you're never as good as you think' and 'never as bad as you think.' Exposure to stressful situations over time builds perspective and a toolkit for handling crises.",
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"summary": "Brian defines product management as finding the kernel of truth in a sea of ambiguity and signals. This means identifying what really matters for customers versus noise, similar to finding where technology leverage exists. He emphasizes documenting all ideas to respect the people who suggest them.",
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"title": "UberPOOL Early Failure and Pivot",
"summary": "UberPOOL's initial San Francisco launch failed because Brian and team realized liquidity was the only thing that mattered, not company-based matching. They learned the constraints of the product and pivoted, using tactics like $5 rides to understand scale limits before finding sustainable growth models.",
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"title": "Product-Market Fit and Different PM Types",
"summary": "Brian discusses thinking about person-product fit when hiring PMs. Different problems require different skillsets—technical PMs, ops-focused PMs, design-focused PMs. Rather than hiring generic PMs, match the skillset to the problem type, similar to how tech leverage is deployed.",
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"title": "Lightning Round - Books and Entertainment",
"summary": "Brian recommends Shoe Dog, Black Swan, Design of Everyday Things, and Shawn Theron as formative books. For entertainment, he enjoys sports documentaries on Netflix including Full Swing, Drive to Survive, and Break Points.",
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"summary": "Brian recently discovered Phi dog collar for his new puppy and Particle news aggregation tool. His life motto is 'stay curious.' He was influenced early in his product career by Jeff Holden, Uber's CPO, who mentored him through the transition from ops to product.",
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"title": "Interview Story - Uber on July 4th",
"summary": "Brian's interview at Uber was scheduled for July 4th (accidentally) during the launch of Uber SUV. He had a 5-hour gauntlet interview and unexpectedly chatted with Travis Kalanick for 45 minutes during the simulation, showing him the intensity of the company culture and setting expectations for working there.",
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"text": "Operations teams can iterate faster, scale customer conversations more efficiently, and have great qualitative insights. When seen as harmony rather than competition, ops teams provide crucial feedback loops for building better products.",
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"text": "A PM sitting in one location cannot understand nuances across many markets. The value is fostering good relationships and feedback loops with people who deeply understand local context.",
"context": "Why product operations function was created at Uber",
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"text": "Local city teams know their cities best. Manual surge pricing allowed GMs to account for local events and knowledge that algorithms might miss, before technology matured enough to capture these nuances.",
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"text": "Reflecting stress onto teams makes everyone tense up and counterintuitively doesn't produce better outcomes. Staying calm as a leader is crucial even under extreme pressure.",
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"text": "Technology leverage comes from the business constraints. In early Uber, the leverage was in dispatching and pricing systems because those drove the core network effect, not in other areas like support or growth tooling.",
"context": "Where to focus technical resources",
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"text": "Operations evolves over time. What starts as manual ops-driven functions eventually become product-driven as technology matures. This requires helping ops teams understand there's always another hill to climb, not that their job is going away.",
"context": "How to think about ops automation",
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"text": "Product reviews should primarily aim to make products better by helping teams think through problems intellectually, not as accountability mechanisms or firing squads. This environment is more conducive to good decision-making.",
"context": "Running effective product reviews",
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"text": "As a senior leader in product reviews, use probing questions and throw out ideas as suggestions, not mandates. Understand the team brings depth (thinking about problem 40-60 hours/week) while you bring breadth (3 hours/week).",
"context": "Leadership approach in product reviews",
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"text": "Small product review groups (under 10) have better conversations. The documents and recordings are powerful for the entire team and especially for onboarding new people who can see the last 20 product reviews to understand company direction.",
"context": "Structuring product reviews",
"topic_id": "topic_8",
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"id": "i10",
"text": "Jobs to be done framework forces deeper empathy by putting yourself in customer shoes. This is especially valuable for products where users don't use them frequently (like home selling once every 7 years) and you can't rely on personal intuition.",
"context": "Why jobs to be done matters at Opendoor",
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"id": "i11",
"text": "The context in which users operate matters as much as the product. Home selling involves conversations with agents, friends, and driving around—the framework helps think about this broader context beyond just in-product experience.",
"context": "Implementing jobs to be done",
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"id": "i12",
"text": "Don't force templates or frameworks rigidly. The real value comes from cultural internalization of thinking, like asking 'what is the actual job?' Rich conversations emerge when you can challenge whether the stated job is truly the job.",
"context": "Making frameworks work in practice",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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"id": "i13",
"text": "Never force A/B tests without power analysis. Know your acceptable runtime and minimum detectable effect. If significance isn't possible in a reasonable timeframe, don't pretend it is.",
"context": "Experimentation discipline",
"topic_id": "topic_10",
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"id": "i14",
"text": "When you can't run canonical A/B tests due to low sample sizes, increase conviction through alternative methods: customer interviews, observational data, diff-in-diff, sister city analysis, geographic segmentation, or adjusting confidence levels from 95% to 80%.",
"context": "Alternative experimentation techniques",
"topic_id": "topic_10",
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"text": "Experimentation is about increasing conviction in problems or solutions. If you can't run rigorous tests and have no other techniques, trust your intuition and ship it rather than pursuing false precision.",
"context": "When to trust intuition",
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"text": "Humility is critical for product leaders. Customers and products can surprise you. Test assumptions when possible, but when not possible, gauge conviction level and involve others to validate intuition before acting on low/medium conviction decisions.",
"context": "Balancing intuition and data",
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"text": "Build feedback loops for intuition-driven decisions. Even if you can't run A/B tests, monitor customer support volume, feature adoption, or other signals to validate whether your hypothesis was correct.",
"context": "Validating intuition-driven changes",
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"text": "Vertical integration requires excellence across multiple functions: pricing, product, operations, risk management, and capital markets. You cannot succeed in this type of business without all pieces working together.",
"context": "Why Zillow struggled with iBuying",
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"text": "Being competition-aware but not competition-focused keeps teams focused on their core customers rather than obsessing over competitors. The market is large enough that focus should be on doing the job better.",
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"text": "The real competition is the default behavior, not other companies. At Opendoor, most people still sell homes the traditional way. At Uber, people still use other transportation methods. Focus beats competition.",
"context": "Market strategy perspective",
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"text": "Exposure to stressful situations builds perspective and a toolkit. The mantra 'you're never as good as you think' and 'never as bad as you think' helps maintain an even-keeled demeanor under pressure for clearer thinking.",
"context": "Developing stress management skills",
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{
"id": "i22",
"text": "Learn from others' stories and experiences to build perspective without needing to have had all the experiences yourself. Biographies, podcasts, and other people's journeys help you understand nonlinear paths to success.",
"context": "Building perspective through learning",
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"text": "Good ideas come from everywhere: CS team, customers, YouTube videos, field visits, conversations, executives. The core job is understanding what really matters versus what's noise, which ties back to finding technology leverage.",
"context": "Managing diverse signals",
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"text": "Document all ideas and feedback in a centralized place. This respects the people who suggest them by showing their ideas are considered, and lets you collectively see what really matters.",
"context": "Operationalizing idea capture",
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"text": "In early product launches, liquidity is often the only thing that matters. Having a clear understanding of constraints helps you focus efforts on what drives the core metric rather than optimizing around the edges.",
"context": "Early stage product focus",
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"text": "Match PM skillsets to problem types rather than hiring generic 'good PMs.' Different contexts require different strengths: technical depth, operational excellence, or design thinking. This is person-product fit.",
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"explicit_text": "GMs in every city would control basically the parameters in which surge would operate...Friday nights and Saturday nights it would flip on from whatever you set, 7:00 PM to 3:00 AM",
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"explicit_text": "We were launching Uber pool in China and...we were going to launch...in Chengdu China...at 6:00 AM for rush hour...the matching algorithm just isn't working...we flipped on all the testing infrastructure...nothing works",
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"explicit_text": "I slept about 30 minutes that night between 2:00 and 3:00 AM being like, okay, well, we have to go live at 6:00 AM...we got everything finally working at probably about five 30 or six in the morning and launched just in the nick of time...we walked out for breakfast at 7:30 in the morning...and we got these pancakes street food things...they were the best meal I've ever had in my life",
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"explicit_text": "When COVID hit, physically we buy and sell homes, and so we were physically going into people's homes and suddenly March 2020 going into people's homes was not something people were comfortable with...we actually turned off the core business and we stopped buying homes for a few months...we took those few months and then came out the other side and had virtualized the whole process",
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"lesson": "Demonstrates how operational constraints can force product innovation and how temporary pauses can enable strategic improvements",
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"explicit_text": "In the early days of Uber...UberX...was going to be all hybrid and had a bunch of different potential names...they built the model for what this product could be and there's no name for it yet, so it was going to be a placeholder. So what do you put in some placeholder? X. So UberX and then the company was moving quickly enough, the product got the green light, it launched, and here we are...and UberX is the name that stuck",
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"lesson": "Shows how temporary decisions made for convenience can become permanent due to momentum, and sometimes the best product names come from pragmatism not strategy",
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"explicit_text": "In the early days...every driver was individually onboarded in a 90 minute to a two-hour in-person in the office onboarding...The next version of that...a small classroom type setting of three or five or six drivers...then as we got into more mass market products like Uber Taxi or UberX...maybe 20 or 30 at a time...we made a video...now suddenly we have a different problem, which is okay, you have to validate all of these credentials...At a thousand a week...suddenly your system breaks",
"inferred_identity": "Uber - Driver Onboarding Evolution",
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"explicit_text": "Instead of having a bunch of folks around the world taking pictures of driver's licenses and validating and doing all that stuff, how do we integrate with some type of OCR technology or auto recognition of driver's licenses...you've done two things. One, you've scaled your system, and two, you've just created a ton of time for...dozens if not hundreds of people running these onboarding sessions",
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"OCR technology",
"automation",
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"lesson": "Demonstrates how technology can solve operations bottlenecks while freeing ops teams for higher-level work",
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"explicit_text": "Ice cream...branched into all sorts of stuff. Boats, ice cream, puppies, kittens...A local marketing manager like, Hey, this would be fun. Yeah, that would be really fun. The platform can support it. And those promotions were fantastic...all credit goes to local ideas of inspiration just being focused on trying to grow",
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"lesson": "Shows how giving local ops teams autonomy leads to creative growth experiments that wouldn't come from centralized product teams",
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"explicit_text": "In the early days of uberPOOL...the first launch...in San Francisco...carpooling product...we had this idea that it would be effective for commuters...we're going to beta it with just some popular commuting corridors with specific companies...the marina to Google or whatever...and we very quickly realized...liquidity is the only thing that matters...there just wasn't enough...we very quickly learned...to say, okay, what are the bounds of liquidity",
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"lesson": "Demonstrates how early assumptions can be wrong and how failure teaches you what actually matters for a marketplace product",
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"id": "ex11",
"explicit_text": "We launched and...maybe people in San Francisco remember this $5 anywhere in San Francisco, we work for promotion...the whole idea here is like, oh, okay, if liquidity is what really matters, if we were to juice that and really drive liquidity, how high can our metrics get?",
"inferred_identity": "Uber - UberPOOL $5 Anywhere Promotion",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Uber",
"UberPOOL",
"San Francisco",
"pricing",
"promotion",
"liquidity testing",
"growth"
],
"lesson": "Shows how extreme testing helps find the ceiling of a metric and informs sustainable strategy after understanding the limits",
"topic_id": "topic_16",
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},
{
"id": "ex12",
"explicit_text": "Zillow basically decided, hey, we're just going to do what Opendoor is doing, they launched it, you're basically frenemies for a while, and then they're like, no, it's not working. Now you partner and now you work with Zillow on this stuff",
"inferred_identity": "Zillow - Failed iBuying Attempt and Pivot to Partnership",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Zillow",
"Opendoor",
"iBuying",
"competition",
"product launch",
"failure",
"partnership",
"real estate"
],
"lesson": "Illustrates how expansion into new business models requires more than product-market fit if missing critical operational and financial capabilities",
"topic_id": "topic_12",
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},
{
"id": "ex13",
"explicit_text": "You have to be really good at pricing. You have to be really good at product, you have to be really good at the operations. You have to be really disciplined at risk. You have to be really good in the capital markets. And so you have to put all of these functions together to build a vertically integrated product",
"inferred_identity": "Opendoor - Vertical Integration Requirements",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Opendoor",
"iBuying",
"vertical integration",
"operations",
"pricing",
"capital markets",
"risk management"
],
"lesson": "Explains why Zillow struggled with iBuying and why it's hard for companies without vertical integration DNA to enter the space",
"topic_id": "topic_12",
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"line_end": 365
},
{
"id": "ex14",
"explicit_text": "They have tremendous amount of reach and audience and all these online platforms have tremendous reach and audience. And we happen to have a fairly unique selling solution...there's a nice synergy so to speak, between a high intended audience who's doing a lot of browsing and searching and discovery...and what we offer, which is transaction services",
"inferred_identity": "Opendoor and Zillow Partnership Model",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Opendoor",
"Zillow",
"partnership",
"marketplace",
"platform synergy",
"transaction services"
],
"lesson": "Shows how former competitors can find win-win partnership models by playing to respective strengths",
"topic_id": "topic_12",
"line_start": 359,
"line_end": 359
},
{
"id": "ex15",
"explicit_text": "A PM sitting in San Francisco can't be in Opendoor's case 50 markets, walking houses every single day in Uber's case, whatever, a thousand cities understanding the nuances of safety in South America",
"inferred_identity": "Opendoor - 50 Markets Operation and Uber Global Expansion",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Opendoor",
"Uber",
"distributed operations",
"geographic diversity",
"product operations",
"scale"
],
"lesson": "Highlights why local knowledge is irreplaceable and why distributed ops teams need to be heard by centralized product teams",
"topic_id": "topic_2",
"line_start": 59,
"line_end": 59
},
{
"id": "ex16",
"explicit_text": "I had this, I think it was probably five hour gauntlet interview on July 4th from noon to five...Travis was involved in the interview...he just sits down and says, 'Hi, I'm Travis.' I don't know who you are...clearly I'm not producing the work that I'm supposed to of the interview...Clearly I've done nothing chatting with the CEO",
"inferred_identity": "Uber - Brian Tolkin's Interview with Travis Kalanick",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Uber",
"hiring",
"interview",
"Travis Kalanick",
"CEO",
"intensity",
"culture"
],
"lesson": "Shows the intensity and entrepreneurial nature of early Uber, where the CEO would interrupt interview processes to connect with candidates",
"topic_id": "topic_20",
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{
"id": "ex17",
"explicit_text": "So I went in to the office on July 4th and there was a very small handful of people there. It was actually launching that day, was launching Uber's second ever product type, which was Uber SUV",
"inferred_identity": "Uber - Uber SUV Launch Day as Interview Setting",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Uber",
"Uber SUV",
"product launch",
"interview",
"July 4",
"early startup"
],
"lesson": "Demonstrates how early startups operate around extreme launches and shows Brian's willingness to participate in chaos",
"topic_id": "topic_20",
"line_start": 554,
"line_end": 554
},
{
"id": "ex18",
"explicit_text": "I was starting a company my senior spring before graduation and we had to go our separate ways...I had actually done some very early diligence work on these taxi apps back in 2011...looking at the time was Uber Cab and Cabilis and Taxi Manage...And so I knew what Uber was",
"inferred_identity": "Brian Tolkin - Pre-Uber Startup and Market Research",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Uber",
"founder",
"startup",
"early-stage research",
"market analysis",
"transportation"
],
"lesson": "Shows how doing early research on emerging markets gave Brian conviction about Uber's potential",
"topic_id": "topic_20",
"line_start": 551,
"line_end": 551
},
{
"id": "ex19",
"explicit_text": "Jeff Holden, who was the chief product officer at Uber back in the day...was very supportive of this guy...took me under his wing...I'm forever grateful for that, for Jeff, for helping grow my career",
"inferred_identity": "Uber - Jeff Holden as Mentor",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Uber",
"mentorship",
"leadership",
"Jeff Holden",
"product operations"
],
"lesson": "Highlights the importance of mentorship in early career growth and the pay-it-forward culture at successful companies",
"topic_id": "topic_19",
"line_start": 545,
"line_end": 545
},
{
"id": "ex20",
"explicit_text": "We do have a template, the standard product review template talks about jobs to be done and has a section for what is the problem statement and what are the jobs to be done",
"inferred_identity": "Opendoor - Product Review Template",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Opendoor",
"product reviews",
"jobs to be done",
"templates",
"processes"
],
"lesson": "Shows how to operationalize frameworks like jobs to be done through product review processes",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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